Hi, Thanks for the welcome. To intoduce myself ..... John Williams from Glynneath in South Wales, born just before WW2. My screen name w3526602 is my old RAF number, and I sign with my "last three" of 602. At my age it helps me recognise my own mails, but you can call me whatever you like. In 1990, me and some mates build a 3000sq ft edifice (Planner's description), but sold it in 2000, bought a "hovel project" for £10,000, which I gutted and renovated. I'd like to do it again, but SWMBO says I'm too old. But I still keep plugging away at her. Whatever, we are currently going through the house